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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:07:00 -
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I trained all basic learning skills to 3 in no time, then to 4 when planning to use that stat to learn lots of skills.
Once I had money to burn I would pick a learning skill, learn it to 5 and shell out the mucho-isk to get the advanced skill, which went to 3 pretty quick.
I now use the character manager to work out whether learning an advanced learning skill to 4 will cause much of an improvement in my immediate plans. If so then I learn it to 4. 5s can likely wait a while.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.10 21:13:00 -
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Actually, this has largely been accounted for with the falling price of implants.
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Posted - 2006.09.14 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 14/09/2006 13:55:04
Um... Guys?
When I started the basic set of +1 implants would set you back over 5M with the cheapest being 600K for the social chip.
The social chip now costs 90K with the full set costing around 3M.
People starting now *can* get their stats up quicker for this reason. +1 mem still costs as much as it always did in my region, probably because of being primary for learning skills, but +1 int has halved in price.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.15 22:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: Caliwyrm O'Libr
...As someone just starting out in the game it simply doesn't make sense to spend 7d training a learning skill to 5 just to shave 1 hour off training another skill to level 3 or 4. (ie. The returns for taking something like Analytical Mind to 5 isn't worth it until you start getting to the 28d or longer trains, IMHO)...
Training speed boost is identical for a rank 1 lvl 1 skill or a rank 14 lvl 5 skill.
For example, +1 to all attributes gives you a bit more than 2k additional skillpoints per day, independant if you spend the day training 100 lvl 1 skills or 1 lvl 5 skill.
This is true if you are time indifferent. However, humans are not and I can prove it. If you offer somebody ú10 today or ú20 in a year's time they will take the ú10 even though the better offer is for the ú20. The reason for this is that a year is a long time, a lot can happen in a year and missing out on the extra tenner isn't so great a problem.
Also, the perceived benefit of an increase in speed isn't about sp/day it's about % increase in speed. No coincidence that my last advanced learning skill to 4 is Eidetic Memory and I'm a Detei. Wow, I get a whole 3% increase on most of my planned skills involving Memory primary according to the character manager.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.16 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 16/09/2006 13:50:44
Originally by: Aramendel
sp/day and % increase in speed is the same thing here.
False.
Let's say I have INT 20 and PER 5
+1 int gives a 5% increase in speed, +1 per gives a 20% increase in speed, both give the same increase in sp/day
(I know I've ignored secondary attributes in this example)
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Increase in speed is progress over TIME.
However, the next ten minutes are worth more than the ten minutes after that which are worth more than the ten minutes after that. This is time preference, humans are impatient.
Thus the feel of the benefit is only felt when you can quickly make up the time lost training the skill. However, if you spend 5 days training a learning skill to take 3 days off your next skill then the time you actually lost training the learning skill is only 2 days, so the benefit comes much quicker.
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Posted - 2006.09.16 19:00:00 -
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Where is the benefit in delaying your plans to make ISK on the offchance that a later plan will take less time to realise (so long as by then you have the ISK to make it happen)?
Learning skills should take their place as part of a specific strategy, not in lieu of one.
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Posted - 2006.09.16 21:15:00 -
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My fault. We are talking at cross-purposes over our definitions of "benefit".
I stand by my learning skill strategy as quoted above, specifically that you train quick-to-train levels of the learning skills when available and slow-to-train (4s and 5s) when you plan to use those attributes a lot in the near future.
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